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"Belmont Yellow" rose Reviews & Comments
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I've had a private email from North Houston Roses, who had a slight problem in replying to my question for information on "Belmont Yellow". With our grateful thanks to them, and with their permission, I have cut and pasted their reply:
I'll tell you what I can about my plant. I received it just about six months ago as a small sized band. I do not disbud young roses, and so it has bloomed several cycles, but it has been a slow grower. It is currently 6 inches tall by 13 inches wide, and It has been thornless so far. I seem to remember that it does have a slight fragrance, but because I watered it with some fish emulsion this evening, I can't really tell you more about the fragrance right now. The opening buds do show a darkish cream to pale yellow color, but the flowers themselves have always been cream. Perhaps the flowers might be a bit darker if it blooms during our winter this year. There have been two GardenWeb forum threads discussing this rose this past spring : "Belmont Yellow" thread: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0215212012349.html "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" thread: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0411342326289.html The forum threads do sometimes disappear, so I will copy the information given by Ann from Tennessee regarding "Belmont Yellow".
"A number of Belmont roses were found and saved by Roses Unlimited..... I have grown "Belmont Yellow" from RU for over a decade. I expect RVV got theirs from Ashdown when they bought out Ashdown's stock..... My "Belmont Yellow"s stayed short, with wonderful shiny foliage. I had one single bloom sport back to a single and mine seldom made fertile hips. The major difference, though, is that mine never ever were the clear yellow buds nor did they bloom yellow and fade. Mine, color wise, reminded me often of the small gardenia blooms that we see so often as pot plants in the spring. Rich cream fading to paler cream."
Some people seem to think that "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" might be the same rose as "Belmont Yellow". According to Kim Rupert in the "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" thread, Malcom Manners has "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" and he was going to ask Roses Unlimited to send" Belmont Yellow" as well so he can compare them, and perhaps have some students do DNA sampling on them. It is possible that any of these people might now be able to tell you more. I would also think that Pat at Roses Unlimited could also tell you more.
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Thank you, Patricia! I've budded a few Schmidt's Smooth Yellow to see how they perform that way. I'd think that would likely have been how they were initially produced and distributed, so it may allow me to see what it's supposed to look like.
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A pleasure Kim. I just love it when more details on foundlings are shared.
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The latest information from Dr. Manners about the testing of these two roses is that they (Belmont Yellow and Schmidt's Smooth Yellow) both carry the same PNRSV infection which is highly suggestive. They may be the same rose, or at least have been propagated by the same source. Unfortunately, obtaining the DNA results has been problematic. Hopefully, they will be available soon.
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29 MAY 16 by
mmanners
We're growing "Belmont Yellow" and "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" in our college greenhouse, side by side, both grafted to 'Fortuniana'. I don't think they are at all the same. 1. Schmidt's flowers are consistently larger and more double 2. Bud shape is not the same 3. B.Y. leaves are much shinier 4. B.Y. has at least one big prickle per internode; Schmidt's is nearly thornless.
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10 FEB 10 by
MaryG
I'm considering this rose and wondering about its degree of thorniness. Thanks for any information!
Best wishes, Mary
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I've only had my plant for six months, but so far it has been thornless.
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Might someone please shed some light on where, when and by whom this was found? Also, more botanical details such as bud form, fragrance, habit, prickles, etc. Lack of observational details makes researching it very difficult! Thank you.
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