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'President' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 80-763
most recent 28 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 SEP 14 by CybeRose
The comment about Ellwanger regarding Adam and President to be the same contradicts the fact that both varieties were offered in the Ellwanger & Barry catalog of 1875.

Vick’s Illustrated Magazine 6: 374 (Dec. 1883)

TEA ROSE, ADAM.
A writer in The Garden considers the Tea Rose, Adam, "one of the most useful Roses in cultivation," and gives his experience with it in connection with other kinds. "All the kinds planted there did well, and gave a large amount of bloom, but there were periods when they were out of bloom with the exception of Adam, which always furnished a bud or two in times of need, and often caused the remark to be made that it was worth all the other varieties put together. It is, however, only fair to say that that favorite of the market growers, Niphetos, did not have a place there, but although Adam scarcely ranks so high as that popular kind, it comes next to it, and the two should always be found in company, forming, as they do, a good contrast as regards color. I cannot think of two better kinds for a small greenhouse than these two Teas. Speaking of Tea Roses the other day to a friend, a large trade grower of them, he confirmed my good opinion of Adam, but considers it to be quite distinct from President."

The best authorities in this country consider Adam and President to be the same variety. If this is not the case then both varieties are probably not known here, for the late Henry B. Ellwanger, who had unsurpassed opportunities of forming a correct opinion in regard to this question, considered the name, President, to be a synonym of Adam.
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Discussion id : 80-761
most recent 28 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 SEP 14 by CybeRose
Ellwanger & Barry’s Catalogue (1875)
p. 91
Adam. (Adam, 1838) mod. Rose, salmon center; large and full.
p. 93
President. (An American variety.) vig. Rose, shaded with salmon; large and of good form; very fragrant.
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Discussion id : 23-987
most recent 5 FEB 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 5 FEB 08 by kai-eric
rudolf geschwind attaches president to WILLIAM paul (die theerose und ihre bastarde, leipzig 1884)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 FEB 08 by jedmar
Yes, we have this reference. See also the answer to your comment on 'Jean Sisley'.
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