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most recent 27 JAN 08  
Initial post 26 JAN 08 by Patricia Routley
When typing in Dr. Hogg in the name search, nothing happens. This rose is listed as Doctor Hogg. As Brent C. Dickerson in "Old Roses: The Master List" 2nd edition, p188 lists it as Dr. Hogg, perhaps the name might need some more attention.

Mr. Dickerson also lists the parentage as - either 'Pierre Notting' (HP) or 'Duke of Edinburgh' (HP).
Reply #1 posted 27 JAN 08 by jedmar
Do you know the original source for the 'Duke of Edinburgh' parentage?
Reply #2 posted 27 JAN 08 by Patricia Routley
No, sorry I don't. Interestingly, the man himself had a connection with Edinburgh.
From BRITISH GARDENERS: A Biographical Dictionary.
Pomologist, botanist, writer, Hogg was born in Berwickshire, the son of a leading nurseryman of the nearby town of Coldstream. He was originally intended for the medical profession, but an early interest in natural science caused him to turn to botanical studies at Edinburgh University
most recent 26 JAN 08  
Initial post 24 JAN 08 by Patricia Routley
Re: la Roseraie du Val du Marne à L'Hay-les-roses spelling of 'Dr. Hoog' for 'Dr. Hogg'.
Here are just a few references to the man and the rose. I believe the Fineschi collection at Cavriglia, Italy also lists it - as ‘Dr. Hoog’. I am not sure if 'Dr. Hoog' should be listed as a synonym, when the man's name was obviously 'Dr. Hogg'.

1843-1892 William Paul Contributions to Horticultural Literature
….inscription “To the Distinguished Horticulturist Robert Hogg LL.D., F.L.S., & c. this Volume is Dedicated as a mark of respect and esteem arising from a life-long friendship.

1893. The Rose by Henry B. Ellwanger.
p142 Doctor Hogg. H.R. 1880.
P251 Doctor Hogg, free., H.R. Laxton, 1880, (Sent out by George Paul.) Deep violet red, medium size.

1910 Rev. A. Foster-Melliar “The Book of the Rose” 1910 - 4th edition.
p xiv. .....I am indebted to Dr. Hogg, the proprietor of The Journal of Horticulture, for leave to republish certain matters which I have written in that paper under the nom de plume of ‘W. R. Raillem”, especially Chapter XIL, which has been thoroughly revised.

1917 “The Rose Annual”, UK.
p18, para 2. H. R. Darlington. The National Rose Society was founded 40 years ago (December 1876)
p18. para 5 The gathering was a representative one and amongst those present were ..... and Dr. Robert Hogg.

2007 Brent C. Dickerson Old Roses: The Master List 2nd edition
p188. Dr. Hogg. (Laxton / G. Paul, 1880) HP seedling either ‘Pierre Notting’ (HP) or ‘Duke of Edinburgh’ (HP) Violet red.
Reply #1 posted 24 JAN 08 by jedmar
The (mis)spelling Dr. Hoog is found in the "Nomenclature..." of Simon/Cochet, from where L'Haÿ have taken most of their descriptions in the 1902 catalogue.
Reply #2 posted 25 JAN 08 by Cass
Dr. Robert Hogg published and edited two gardening magazines in the late 19th century, The Journal of Horticulture, Cottage Gardener and Home Farmer and The Florist and Pomologist. Many issues of both are available through Google.com/books, at least in the USA.
Reply #3 posted 25 JAN 08 by mar
Sorry, I have poor information, thanks for your reply.
Reply #4 posted 26 JAN 08 by jedmar
No, your information was perfectly all right, but it was not the full picture. Many rose names are spelled differently in different languages. The 1902 catalogue of L'Haÿ also says 'Doctor Hoog'. We would appreciate your picture taken at the Roseraie.