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Discussion id : 122-950
most recent 16 AUG 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 AUG 20 by Michael Garhart
Apparently one of the few species among many tested where the clones were resistant to downy mildew.
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Discussion id : 94-306
most recent 11 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 AUG 16 by Andrew from Dolton
Wild Flowers of Chalk and Limestone, J.E. Lousley

First published in 1950 by Collins Clear-Type Press. This description taken from 1969 revised edition. Lewes is in the south-east of England roughly 90km south from London and 10km from the coast.

"Inland there is a fine flora about Lewes with some unusual features. Lewes race-course, Mount Caburn and Mount Harry are among the best places. On the lower slopes of Mount Caburn the Scarce Sweetbriar, Rosa agrestis, is more abundant than in any other place in Britain. For about a mile it is the most common rose, and it is difficult to suggest any reason why it should thrive here and yet be so scarce else where".

And on wikipedia:

"Mount Caburn is now legally protected. It lies within the Lewes Downs SSSI (designated in 1953) and the Mount Caburn National Nature Reserve was established in the mid-1980s. It has been designated a Special Area of Conservation as an example of orchid-rich chalk grassland. It is home to a good population of stonechats.
Caburn is unusual within the South Downs for having a south-facing scarp slope. The site has the largest British population of burnt-tip orchid. There is also the rare small-leaved sweet-briar, and the typical fragrant and pyramidal orchids. Invertebrates include Adonis and chalkhill blue butterflies and the scarce forester moth. Populations of stonechats live in scrubby bushes such as gorse near the golf club and in the valley below, along with other song birds such as blue tits. Herring gulls and carrion crows often fly overhead and hundreds of domestic sheep graze the area. There is a sheltered cave with a water trough where lost sheep can rest safely if they stray away from the flock on a dark night when the farmer is rounding up the animals".
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 8 AUG 16 by Patricia Routley
Thank you Andrew
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 10 AUG 16 by Andrew from Dolton
You are very welcome. I have found this rose listed as the Scarce Sweetbriar in three British wildflower books all by very creditable authors, is it possible to list it under this name under the description of this rose?
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 11 AUG 16 by Patricia Routley
Could it be a case of one author capitalising Scarce Sweetbriar (as against Abundant Sweetbriar, and Rare Sweetbriar) and the others following suit? I have searched my computer (not that that means much) and could finding nothing on the Scarce Sweetbriar. However I have added the 1917, 1935 and 1997 references and the latter one makes me wonder if the Scarce Sweetbriar could have been R. elliptica auct. eur.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 11 AUG 16 by Andrew from Dolton
yes, you are right. Further trawling through my books has revealed the names, narrow-leaved sweetbriar and small-leaved sweetbrier too. There are many species of "dog rose" appearance in the U.K. that at a quick glance all look incredibly similar. There is a rose that resembles Rosa dumalis very closely that grows locally, present as scattered singletons in the hedgerows that I am endeavoring to identify but all the books say this species does not exist in my location! I will post a comment and pictures on the dumalis page and see if anyone has any clues.
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