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"Von Doussa Children" rose Reviews & Comments
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In much the same way as others have questioned whether or not Belle Amour is in fact one of the parents of Constance Spry, I find myself wondering whether Queen of Denmark is in the parentage of Getrude Jekyll. When examining a flower from the former, the shape, colour, and most particularly the scent, have a great many similarities, at least in my experience. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Not for me, no. I see similarities between 'Gertrude Jekyll' and 'Baronne Prevost'. I grew them both here and I could quite believe that they are connected. I've also had 'Queen of Denmark', but I wouldn't personally have made that association, so it's interesting that you find it so, and I know you are very observant.
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Don't recall the reference, but I was under the impression that a Portland rose, C. de Chambord, is a parent of Gertrude Jekyll. I think that such was claimed by DA Co. back when they first released GJ.
C de C x Constanc Spry I seem to remember seeing somewhere.
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Nastarana, you are right about Comte de Chambord being one of the parents given for Gertrude Jekyll, though I believe it is supposed to have been used as the pollen parent, with Wife of Bath as the seed parent.
That is one of the things that doesn't add up for me. I have C.d.C., and while not totally dissimilar to Gertrude Jekyll in some ways, it doesn't really remind me of her as much as I feel it should. It certainly hasn't had a positive effect on decreasing the size of the plant, in the way that any good Portland would usually do. Also, the scent is distinctly different, at least to my nose - much more of a pure damask, and not really like G.J., which has a certain something extra to the fragrance that is more akin to something like, say, Queen of Denmark. The fact that no trace of the mryhh type scent from Wife of Bath being present also doesn't make sense to me, as this has been carried across several such roses of that period in breeding the English Roses, and seems to be quite a strong characteristic.
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Thank you, Marlorena, for such a compliment, though I'm not sure that I really deserve it!
I've never grown, or even seen, Baronne Prevost, but I've always thought it looks to be a very lovely rose, and it is supposed to be a grandparent of G.J., so if the given parentage is accurate, then that wouldn't be surprising that it is quite similar. (although Comte de Chambord, which is supposedly a descendant of Baronne Prevost, and the given pollen parent to G.J., is very much smaller)
Not to cast aspersions, but I have heard it said that there are doubts about a few of Mr Austin's roses as to their parentage, and this is one that I have started to question, just a little bit.
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The depth and richness of it's damask fragrance is unmatched. Easily better than any of the other repeat flowering old roses I grow. Here in England it doesn't throw out octopus canes and is easily manageable as a tidy shrub.
My favourite rose for colour, form and fragrance. I grow it in a pot and am considering winding it around supports like an obelisk.
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How has growing it in a pot gone? Im considering getting it for my patio but I am unsure how it would perform. Thanks
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It grows well in a large pot! I've stuck 2 metal pins in the pot and wind some canes around where its possible and I get blooms all along the length. It just has to stay well watered to thrive.
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