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'Ellinor Le Grice' rose Reviews & Comments
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Rose Growing Complete (1976)
Inheritance of Color
Edmund Le Grice
*Mrs. Beatty was a clear yellow, and promised to be the needed parent. Yellowcrest was crossed with Mrs. Beatty and one seedling provided three plants as the Second World War broke out. Fortunately, a flower was seen while the rose beds were being cleared for food and the rose Ellinor Le Grice survived.* It carried its unfading gold yellow into its progeny Allgold (Goldilocks x Ellinor Le Grice) together with one of the healthiest foliages we have. This patient search brought its reward, but it also brought out the fact that the pure yellow colour is linked with the globular bud brought in by the rose Mrs. Beckwith all those years ago. Breed back or forward, every time this colour appears so does the globular bud.
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#2 of 5 posted
30 AUG 15 by
CybeRose
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Patricia,
I don't know the page number. I copied the chapter from Le Grice's book back in 2001 ... before I started noting page numbers and such. Sorry.
Karl
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That's OK. It takes us a good while to realise that page numbers and provenance are pretty important things to keep.
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#4 of 5 posted
28 SEP 18 by
CybeRose
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I just noticed that Le Grice contradicted himself in print. To be fair, both 'Lilian' and 'Mrs Beatty' were raised by Ben Cant, and presumably had similar ancestry.
The Rose Annual pp. 106-113 (1972)
The Development of Modern Yellow Roses
E. B. LE GRICE
My first true yellow was 'Yellowcrest', '35. It was a true, shining gold on a fairly strong plant, but with very thorny wood. It promised to be thoroughly good and then, without warning, after its first flowering it shed its leaves (as I have seen 'Austrian Yellow' do). It broke into growth once more and flowered freely in the autumn only to repeat the process. How to retain the colour and yet replace the foliage? It was not until the outbreak of the Second World War, when we were digging up and burning roses to make way for the food drive, that one bloom on three plants ('Lilian' x 'Yellowcrest') solved the problem, but the war years had to pass before this rose was named 'Eleanor Le Grice' and introduced in 1950. This rose was to have a profound effect on floribunda roses later.
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Jack Harkness in 1978 confirms the 1965-quoted parentage of (Yellowcrest x Mrs. Beatty) but I am not sure which was the seed parent.
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Oh what a tangled web is weaved.
Ellinor Le Grice Introduced 1949, bred 12 years earlier in 1937. From either:
1949 ref and 1950 Patent: Lilian 1931 x Golden Dawn 1929
1961 ref & 1978: Lilian 1931 x Yellowcrest 1935
1965 & 1978: Mrs. Beatty 1926 x Yellowcrest 1935
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Without ID'ing visible traits in each unknown parent, its hard to even guesstimate.
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