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'Crépuscule' rose Reviews & Comments
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She is not fragrant, but I still love her. Gracefully arching and so feminine. Few thorns and absolutely loaded with flowers in the first year in my garden. She just now (mid July) slowed to a handful of blooms. Very little pest or disease issues. A bit of blackspot. I live on the coast in Northern California and she loves it here. She does sometimes hold on to old blooms (usually they just drop off), but I just give them a blast with the hose. She had a bit of die back ( a couple of inches on one or two canes) last winter, but bounced right back. She is 4 feet tall by 4 feet wide so far. I have not trained her. I let her do her own thing.
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Is this rose shade tolerant? I have a position with 4 hours of sun a day, and the rest of the day with filtered sun. Thanks.
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#1 of 6 posted
22 MAR 10 by
MaryG
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Hi Charlene,
I checked three different rose books that go to some trouble to try to identify those roses that can do reasonably well in shade. None of them mention 'Crépuscule' for any degree of shade tolerance, and one book, the Peter Beales' "Classic Roses" book, specifically recommends that you be put it into full sun.
There are plenty of roses that Peter Beales doesn't mention any sun/shade information on; he singled this one out for needing sun to do its best. So perhaps Peter knows of some very unsuccessful attempts to grow the rose in partial shade? The books do list some noisettes that can succeed with some shade, but apparently this rose just isn't one of them. Sorry.
Best wishes,
Mary
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Just a note ... full sun in England is very different than full sun in Texas or even parts of California. It's likely the rose will "reach for the sun", but I have found that many roses said to require full sun by authors from England fry to a crisp in the mountains of northern California unless they have some shade or filtered sunlight.
Smiles,
Lyn
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How true. I live a half an hour from the beach, but most of my roses appreciate a little shade at some point in the day. The ideal spot here faces east, towards the morning sun, then gets shade in the afternoon hours.
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Here's a photo of Crepuscule in a previous garden of mine. In a 3m wide corridor between the (one-story) house and a colourbond fence, facing east, and subject to howling salt-laden winds at times. Zone 9b, summers hot to very hot.
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Mine grows in similar conditions and blooms well. I live in the Bay Area, Ca.
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My own thrives in those same conditions. The San Francisco Bay Area is where I make my home.
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can somebody pls comment about thorns on Crepuscule. I'm trying to ID my neighbor's apricot climber which has few to average thorns, nothing that will rip you to shreds. thanks.
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But you don't need to go through Flickr - once you've posted a message here, an Add Photo button appears on the right.
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Oh, heavens, let's see if that's something I've been missing for YEARS? Yes, sorry! Thank you Margaret. I AM blind, not to mention less than observant. I honestly have never paid attention to that. Guess I should delete my "dumb post"! Thanks!
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It took me a while to find it, too!
The photos look pinker than I'm used to seeing Crepuscule.
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It's quite pretty! But, it looks more like Felicia to me.
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#6 of 12 posted
19 MAR 12 by
vossner
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you're right. It sure does look like Felicia.
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The colour is close for Felicia, but Felicia usually comes in quite generous clusters/ trusses of smallish blooms and is reasonably well armed.
What is the fragrance like?
Do you know whether the colour and form of the bloom varies greatly at different times of the year?
How wide would you say the bloom is?
Does the rose set hips readily?
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#8 of 12 posted
19 MAR 12 by
vossner
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hi, the flowers I saw were between 2.5-3". as to fragrance, I'm not very good at describing, other than sweet or divine. This belongs to a neighbor and I'm not near the rose daily to notice characteristics more closely. In fact, this is the first time I've notice such abundance of blooms. I greatly appreciate your help and know more people can't do more, with limited info I'm providing. Only thing I can say (respectfully) for sure is that this person accepted suggestions from a reputable nursery, bought and planted. So the cultivars will be mostly mainstream. Nothing wrong w/ that, just sayin'.
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I'd love to see any extra photos you take over the seasons.
Did you take these pics recently? - if yes, then these are winter blooms or the blooms-that-come-after-the-first -decent-rain-for-a-long-time!?
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Looks a lot like Reve D'Or to me!
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#13 of 12 posted
20 MAR 22 by
ClemLuc
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I suspect it is Madame Alfred Carriere. She is also a fragrant noisette and has few thorns.
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I planted two Crepuscule on a wire fence about seven years ago in a temperate, coastal location in NSW, Australia. I was a bit nervous that she might be a martyr to black spot as so many roses with yellowish flowers seem to be in humid climates but this is the most generous, undemanding rose imaginable. I was watching the Melbourne Cup many years ago and was particularly entranced by the hedge of apricot-coloured roses running alongside the straight - it was completely smothered in small apricot roses and I thought I have to have one - so I rang the racecourse and was told it was Crepuscule. She flowers reliably in enormous flushes, the petals drop cleanly so you aren’t confronted by a mass of brownish decaying petals on the bush and the flowers are a richer colour in cool weather (can be a soft orange but never garish) but even in mid-summer the flowers are a beautiful mix of apricot, butter yellow and cream. The fragrance is not spectacular but the health, generosity and tolerance of this rose more than outweigh that minor defect. You can hard prune her (as in the very tidy Flemington hedge) or you can allow her her head as I do - resulting in a large mounding shrub two to three metres high and the same wide. Every couple of years I crawl in under her and give her a good cleaning-out prune - removing dead wood and bring it all back to a good healthy framework. A highly recommended, disease free, tough, healthy rose that is rarely without a flower in our climate and is covered with a profusion several times a year.
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