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most recent 23 MAY 12 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 27 AUG 10 by Simon Voorwinde
Bemo... I think you are on a winner with this one. It's gorgeous! I think it was smart combining these two lines too... kordesii x wichurana... very cool.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 30 AUG 10 by Bernhard
Simon, thank you ! I love this plant too. I feel that it also will work best as a mother plant, there are still some hips on it :-)
BTW: The biggest win is this breeding hobby itself.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 19 AUG 11 by Simon Voorwinde
Bernhard, how did this rose flower this year? Is it still shy? Did the plant stay bushy or does it want to climb?
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 19 AUG 11 by Bernhard
Hi Simon,
some time you win, sometimes you loose.....no flowers this year.
This plant flowers on the old wood. After the second hard and long winter it was necessary to prune it hard back. Later I recognized that it was not only damaged by frost. Some of the roots have ben eaten by a vole and ants have found a new home under the plant :-(. So rescue action took place: replanting in a big pod & carefully upraising in the half shadow. I have also made some cuttings and two graftings recently and hope that it will work.
Unfortunately we have to live with disappointments ......
regarding the habit: my last observation were long canes, shooting from the old wood and I assume that it will be possible to grow it as a big shrub or more likely as a climber, That's. definitively not a rose for small borders.

have a nice weekend
Bernhard
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 20 AUG 11 by Simon Voorwinde
Here's to hoping this beauty makes a full recovery, Bernhard. Do you intend to use it in breeding next season?
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 20 AUG 11 by Bernhard
of course !, if the breeding stock will survive. The wood does not look very pretty :-(
Cuttings and the grafted plants will work soonest in 2013.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 23 MAY 12 by Michael Garhart
I assume it survived? I hope so. I really love it. I have a similar cross from Penny Lane x Salita. I think Salita is an F2 from Sympathie. At any rate, the blooms and foliage look similar, but this one is upright. I am glad Sympathie is more dominant than most rose parents in terms of giving health to its offspring.
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 23 MAY 12 by Simon Voorwinde
In this case I'd say it was FCG that gave this seedling its health ... not so much 'Symapathie'. 'Sympathie' gets so much disease here I've scrubbed it as a breeder.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 23 MAY 12 by Bernhard
Michael,
yes it survived, but again got damages during the strong winter. We had strong frost in Feb after a open winter in Dec and Jan. All plants were still driving when the sibirian frost attacked. At the end I realized the greatest losses I ever had in the garden.Fortunately all 4 clones I made are also alive :-)

Simon,
maybe Sympathie does not like the tasmanian weather? In Germany there are also some regions where the rose gets BS .That's the reason why the plant lost her 'ADR' label. Regarding the off spring, I'm unchanged a great fan of the rose, believe Warren too. A good example for the qualities will be 'Red Pierre' or 'Laguna'.I used 'Sympathie' last yaer also as pollen parent with a satisfying result so far ( see 10-12-01)......

cheers
Bernhard
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